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Hetalia is NOT, I repeat, NOT, the complete record of history.

It is NOT supposed to be taken at face value.

Those characters stand for much more complicated situations.

Don't act so disgusted with people who enjoy it for the particular WAY it depicts history - that's like hating a history book from a different country. They cover different things, place emphasis on different pieces.

Of COURSE it's not going to go deep into the intricacies of the atrocities committed during the world wars! It's a comic satire, that is meant to poke fun at the goofy side of international relations, it is not meant to be a reliable secondary source! Don't get something? Feel like it's too general? WWW DOT LOOK IT THE HELL UP DOT COM.

Hidekaz's intent with this comic was to make history enjoyable and accessible to people. It's a mnemonic, if you will.

What some of those nations did (my own included) was disgusting. It was inhuman, ignorant, and utterly wrong, and no one should disregard this aspect of history. But neither should we take refuge in our offendedness, puffing ourselves up in fear that we may appear thoughtless, or that we may forget.
We'll never forget. It's okay to simplify. History is ALWAYS simplified, no matter how specific.

We will never know precisely what the guards in Japanese internment camps in California were thinking. We will never know who exactly was in which trench - it's too much information for anyone to process.

What we can do is draw people in with silly comics, and curious anecdotes, and say "Hey, look here! Look at what we did!" and then, hopefully, some portion of those people will go on to look deeper, and accept and try to comprehend the not-so-nice parts.

If you read all of this, thank you, and I truly hope I haven't offended anyone. Please feel free to add your own thoughts on the matter.


P.S. And DON'T, please for the love of all that is beautiful in this world, judge it by the people who love it for the animu ghey bishie factor. Sweet Christ, no. Ignore them. They do not exist in the real world. They are figments of the internet.
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:iconitaluv:
**snaps fingers, cause SCREW CLAPPING; THIS IS POETRY**

I think that when it comes to people who hate on Hetalia, it's because of one (or more) of these:
-"it's popular, so it sucks"
-"it's anime, so it sucks"
-"I don't like the way my country is portrayed"
-"my country was left out (AND IT SHOULD TTLY BE REPRESENTED EVEN THOUGH IT HAD NO PART IN WWI OR II)"
-"I'm judging it based on the fact that it has a bunch of yaoi fans"
-"I'm a troll"
-etc

And they come up with this "it's not deep enough" bullshit because they can't find a better excuse to be a hater. And because they're too ignorant to understand the concept of a satire.

Like, the other day, this girl wanted me to draw something bashing Japan (because it's never mentioned how he practically raped Asia during WWII), knowing fully well that I'm Japanese. :| Why the fuck would I draw something bashing my own country/people?

People take things way too seriously. I mean, I do like how Hetalia usually does the opposite: it gets people to lighten up and creates the potential for international friendships. But, like with everything else, there's always got to be some people who want to be negative.
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:iconexplosive-toaster:
lol thank you.

And yeah, there are people who are just hating for the sake of hating. Those I worry about are the people who are actually intelligent, conscientious people who are disapproving of Hetalia because of (how I see it anyway) a misinterpretation.

uh.... dude. Awkward. That's.... just not okay. If you CHOSE to do something like that, recognizing your own country's failings, that would be one thing (I've been thinking of doing some srsbznz America myself) but it should be personal, not a request. That just seems insulting.
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:iconitaluv:
Wow, there is such a thing as intelligent people who hate it because of misinterpretation? I would think an intelligent person would be open-minded enough to understand what it's all about. I guess not?

Exactly. And it's like, what do I stand to gain by making my own people look bad (even though I'll be the first to admit that the Japanese did some terrible things) AND portraying certain other Asian countries getting beaten up? Who exactly is going to be pleased with that?
And if the request hadn't been insulting, even just the way she worded it was. I guess it goes to show that stupidity and rudeness often go hand-in-hand.
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:iconexplosive-toaster:
There are, I've met some of them. It's really a matter of how sensitive one is - Americans and Britons tend to be thick-skinned about mocking themselves and others, while, say, native-born Asians and Eastern Europeans(not to generalize, oh god no) don't seem to have as much of an inclination to self-deprecate, and tend, consequently, to be a little more touchy. The uproar in Korea is a good example.
Some of that I understand, really.... the character's relationship with Japan, and all that hullabaloo - some of that is too recent to be touched.

Exactly! Some people get off on that kind of garbage (though WHY is beyond me) but it's just.... just plain insensitive and rude, really.
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:iconitaluv:
lol, I can't speak for other Asians, but the Japanese are usually fine with making fun of themselves. But I guess it's always hurtful when another country makes yours look bad? (Though most Hetalian characters have their good and bad points, just like the countries they represent.) I also think that Korea's character was a bit too overdone, but... In all honesty, you've gotta know how the Japanese feel about the Koreans to understand the portrayal. It's kind of a common feeling that Korea (particularly North Korea) is kind of...attention-seeking. Which is one of the ways Yong Soo is portrayed. DISCLAIMER: I am not one of the Japanese who feel this way about Korea; as they have every right to want to draw attention to their sufferings. The Japanese are not as involved in the Western world (as far as being close enough to have bad stereotypes about the people), and so it's easy to form an unbiased Western character. Whereas characters like China and Korea have some more Japanese-like stereotypes that are not as easily understood from a Western viewpoint.
Hope none of that was offensive; it's all just speculation in the end.
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:iconexplosive-toaster:
That's actually really interesting to hear - I'm always on the lookout for other viewpoints in this series, and perspectives from different countries, so this is fascinating to me. o w o
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:iconeokani:
~eokani Sep 23, 2009  Hobbyist
I'm one hundred percent with you. You expressed it so well! Yes, Hetalia is funny, it is a comic about history but out international relations. Doesn<t mean we totally forget what horrible things happened in history. The important thing is we don,t forget and we dont do the same mistakes.
well, you pretty much sumed it up perfectly, so I don<t know what I<m still doing here...
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:iconexplosive-toaster:
Haha, thank you very much, I'm glad I hit the points you wanted!
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:iconfreakyblackkitty:
I love that website.

You cant keep the idiots quiet, try as you might.
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:iconexplosive-toaster:
Hah, same.

Yeah... I mean, not all of them are idiots, but perhaps are unclear as to the general gist of the series.
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